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Are you feeling lost, uncertain, or disconnected from the loving support of the Universe? If you’re ready to stop struggling and start co-creating a life you truly desire, I’ve created a truly special experience for you in this episode.

I collaborated with the brilliant musician East Forest to take you on a powerful, 12-minute guided meditation journey. His beautiful music combined with my guidance will help you align with the energy of the Universe and activate your power to manifest your dreams. This is the perfect practice to deepen your spiritual connection, find clarity, and manifest with more ease and trust.

Following the meditation, East Forest and I sit down for a beautiful conversation about the power music has to deepen our spiritual practice, and we share some insight into how we created this unique journey just for you.

This meditation journey will help you:

  • Feel instantly guided, supported, and connected to the Universe.
  • Activate your power as a co-creator of your reality.
  • Release struggle and welcome in your desires with more ease and flow.
  • Build an unshakeable faith that the Universe has your back.
  • Deepen your spiritual practice through the power of sound.

Press play now to feel guided, supported, and reconnected to the loving energy that is always available to you.

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This podcast is intended to educate, inspire, and support you on your personal journey towards inner peace. I am not a psychologist or a medical doctor and do not offer any professional health or medical advice. If you are suffering from any psychological or medical conditions, please seek help from a qualified health professional.

dear gabby #282 Sep 22, 2025 manifesting

guided meditation journey to co-create with the universe (meditation music by east forest)

[00:00:00] The following podcast is a dear media production.

Hey there. Welcome to Dear Gabby. I'm your host Gabby Bernstein, and if you landed here, it is absolutely no accident. It means that you're ready to feel good and manifest a life beyond your wildest dreams. Let's get started.

Welcome back to Dear Gabby. Today is a really special gift that I'm giving you. This is such a special, special, special gift forever. I've had a vision of creating a meditative journey with my friend Krishna, AKA East Forest, the beautiful musician and creator and spiritual man, and all around incredible human.

That dream has become my reality today, friends, that dream is my reality. I am going to share with you a guided [00:01:00] journey with music and my voice and meditative guidance for co-creating with the universe. The music is extraordinary and it backs up my voice and it backs up the intention of. Opening your heart and visioning the future that you wanna create, and the moment in this moment that you wanna create.

Opening your heart to what's possible and really opening up your mind to wander. Being in that energy of just openness, creativity, clarity, and the mystical experience of letting your mind wander and see where it takes you. So listen to this meditation now. Stick around to the end to listen to my interview with Krishna East Forest and enjoy this practice.

My suggestion is that you practice this meditation daily for 30 days to experience the best benefit, at least 30 days. You might wanna keep going and report back to me, DM me, leave me a review. Let me [00:02:00] know what your experience is after your 30 day journey with this guided meditation to co-create with the universe.

East Forest, enjoy meditation to co-create with the universe. Begin by finding a comfortable seated position. Gently close your eyes and take a slow, deep breath in and let it go. Breathe in softly and gently. Exhale,[00:03:00] allow your shoulders to drop, relax your face. And let your hands rest easily
with each inhale. Imagine you're breathing in light and with each exhale you're releasing any tension,
worry. Her heaviness.[00:04:00]  Bring your awareness to your heart center. Now imagine a warm. Golden glow forming there. Your inner spark, your unique creative essence. This is the part of you that's pure. Limitless and in harmony with the universe.[00:05:00]  Feel the rhythm of your breath sinking with this golden light. As you inhale, it grows brighter. As you exhale, it expands filling your whole body with warmth and peace.

Now, imagine that above you, stretching endlessly in every direction is the vast universe,
a shimmering field of stars, light and possibility.[00:06:00]  This is the field of infinite creation. Every thought, every desire, every act of love you send out touches this field. Picture a stream of luminous energy flowing from your heart into this infinite field. And from the field back into your heart,
it's a gentle two way current. A reminder that you are not separate from the universe, but an essential part of it.[00:07:00] 

Bring forward a vision, a dream, or a desire, something you wish to co-create with the universe.
Hold it in your heart like a precious seed. See it clearly in full color. Feel it not as something far away, but as something alive in you right now.[00:08:00]  Whisper silently to the universe. I am ready. I am open. I co-create with ease, love, and trust. I have unshakeable faith in the energy of the universe. Now imagine the universe responding. Feel its energy weaving with yours,[00:09:00] magnifying your vision, aligning opportunities. Ideas and synchronicities to bring into form rest in this knowing you are supported, you are guided, you are in partnership with the infinite, and take a deep breath in feeling gratitude as a. Your vision has already blossomed and a slow breath out releasing any need to control the how.

Breathe in[00:10:00] and let that go. Feeling the energy of the universe surrounding you support. Rewarding you, guiding you and protecting you, showing you where to go and what to do and what to say, Aligning your desires with your highest truth and the highest good for all. The universe is an ever present energy of love within you and around you, guiding you and showing you where to go.
Opening invisible doors, giving you inner direction, wisdom and clarity. Welcome this energy [00:11:00] into your life now and continue to repeat to yourself. I know I'm being guided. I know I'm being guided. I know I'm being guided.[00:12:00] [00:13:00] 

When you're ready, gently return your awareness to your body and wiggle your fingers and toes.
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Krista, I'm gonna dive in with first starting. With a little love note to you. I've had many transformational moments on my meditation pillow with your music, and therefore your energy because I know that your energy is really infused into this art that you've created in the world, and I just wanna thank you and so many people in the world have the same energetic experience of you, and it's such a transmission.

That's where I wanna start with a thank you. Well, I appreciate that. Thank you. It's been a long, long journey. We were just reflecting on that we sort of swimming in similar circles in New York City and for me that was a long time ago. That was like the mid Augh two [00:20:00] thousands, 20 years ago. Yeah. But you know, there was a scene and it's been a long time, right?

It's been a long time. A lot of life, and I think. That's really what all this work is about, that you're doing that I'm doing all of us. It's really about how do we live life more authentically with more grace. Mm-hmm. And it's had a lot of richness over the years. Yeah. I'd love to know how your spiritual practice plays into your music.

I mean, part and parcel. There's not a separation for me in that way. I mean, it's funny because when. When your art becomes a business and, and the way you know, you're trying to subvert systems that are broken by working within them, and that's just the nature of living and modern life. But it's interesting and it's tricky at times and slippery, but for me, like music's the thing that keeps my head on straight.

It's my like, not a yoga, it's my practice to stay centered and stay [00:21:00] connected to something larger than just my sense of my separate self. In the universe. I feel more connected by doing that. And it's funny because I'm a big fan of like the War of Art, that book the Stephen Pressfield, that there's this concept that there's a resistance to doing the things that are really amazingly nourishing to you, and for some reason you resist them day after day.

Right? So the fact that it's a job for me, the benefit of that is it forces me to rehearse out of abject fear for having to get up on stage and I need to be prepared. But by doing that, it really helps me. It just, I don't have to say it. It's just like when you play music or you're creative in general, we are creative beings as people, as humans.

I feel like that's really what we do is we create and we do it all the time through conversations and in smaller ways, but these kind of grander flourishes of, of art and whatever the artistic [00:22:00] expression is. It just feels like the universe is smiling in a really big way. And that's me too. That's you too.
I mean, it's what we are sort of feeling fuller and bigger, so I have to do it whether I resist it or not. And I feel super grateful that there's like no better feeling than for an artist to make anything and then have anyone out there. Listen to it, witness it, appreciate it, and it has any value for them.

Yeah, I mean, that's an amazing feeling. I think the fact that your art is a spiritual practice and giving you a healing experience, which is my guess. Yeah. When you're creating, that's my experience too. When I'm writing, I'm healing myself. When I'm speaking, I'm healing myself. That it's almost automatic that the listener, the human in the room, is gonna have that transmission of healing as well, because you're being guided.

I think if. Whatever you're doing is coming from the [00:23:00] heart. Yeah. Or another way of saying that, if it's sort of authentic as opposed to a form of pandering, then if you're connecting in a sense to yourself, your center in a truthful way, that's the same thing we're all looking for and needing. Mm-hmm. Is a connection to God, to all that is.

And so when you do that and you're sharing it in a way that that same sort of feeling or transmission is present. That's the medicine, that's what all art is, right? I've said this before, I was talking to Matthew Fox, he's the, uh, Episcopalian priest who is excommunicated from the Catholic church for basically being awesome.

And he's like, when you have an experience with the Newmans or the mystical, the only rational response is silence or art. It's just nails it, you know? Mm-hmm. Because these are the ways we. Dance around that mystery. These are the ways we sing with it and continue to like sit around the [00:24:00] fire, as Ramdas says, for eternity.

Yeah, there's no destination. It's just this is what we're doing. And so art is like we're churning that, you know? Or we're killing that soil. It's great. Yeah. And when you're making music, do you. Consciously or unconsciously, I'm sure it's happening, but consciously taking the tones and the healing benefits of the sound.

Healing of it all. Yeah. I mean, through feeling, so, okay. That's the best answer ever, by the way. Yeah. Well, 'cause I get asked a lot, what tone? Have you found a frequency that is the one, or Yep. What is your, whatever. Yep. And I'm like, no, I mean all of it. Or, and it's because. When I'm playing music, particularly improvising, what I'm basically searching for or the North Star is just cultivating a feeling and that feeling is probably the same thing, or chasing in yoga or anything, which is just less thinking, more just [00:25:00] that inner connective piece to the infinite.

Mm-hmm. It's an infinite feeling that I'm yearning for. I just want to touch it and embrace it, and I find that through. Certain chords and it's not actually, isn't really repetitive. Like I can't just say, oh, if I play this particular chord progression, it kind of can. But that's the magic is that it's actually about the expression and how it all combines in that moment.

That is not something you can just write down as a recipe. Yeah, there's some element about the intention. That seems to really matter and that's why live music and so forth, it can be so magical. 'cause it's like, what's going to happen now? You know? We're all there to be a part of it. Yeah. It's so spontaneous.

Yeah. Yeah. Ideally. Well, I think why I resonated so deeply when you said that answer is because. You know, there's always like sort of like sound healing and these tones do this, and it's like, yeah, well actually, if you're a pure channel and you're letting [00:26:00] the energy move through you and you're making, creating outta that channel, then the tone is going to be healing.

Yeah. I mean, most of that stuff is bullshit and it's, I love you, it's great to hear. Mm-hmm. It's all music is quote unquote sound healing. Yeah. All sound is sound. It's all about intention and what you do with it. There are not. Particular frequency I could get into that. It's pretty nerdy music stuff.

Mm-hmm. But I mean, I like that, but the point is that we don't have to limit ourselves. Mm-hmm. And, and say like, this is healing. This is not healing. Right. Or this tone is more important than another. It's like, I mean, just on the most fundamental level, sound like light. It's infinite. It just goes on and on and on.

We can hear certain things and if you were to zoom in and in and in on a frequency and sort of fractal, like it would just go on and on and on. Like where is that endpoint? Where like we've hit the tone. Yeah. So in that way, I think one of the reasons the human voice is so mesmerizing, for example, is because it's [00:27:00] not perfect.

It's always changing a little bit and moving in frequencies and tones. It's alive. Its imperfections. Make it perfect in a sense. It's constantly in creation in a way, and it's unique to each of us, how it sounds just like a snowflake. So it's a doorway to the soul. Yeah, just like the eyes, like it's one of our senses in a sense, and I really feel that it is like a straight transmission into what we are going back to us being creative beings, and even on the level of the idea of like, we all have this thing, this voice box, right?

And right now the way we communicate ideas is kind of through singing is sound talking. Mm-hmm. And we all can sing. Mm-hmm. And it's only been in the last a hundred some years that we started paying other people to do it and having recordings. I mean, it used to just be like, this is what it meant to be us, is we would sing.

Mm-hmm. Beautiful. Well said. I think that's [00:28:00] why it really resonates so deeply with the work that you did when you created around Ramdas's voice. One of my favorite pieces that you did was grandmother's fear, and I, my dream would be to send you some of my channeling talks and let you play with those because that's, yeah, it, and that was me having my own insights back in, I don't know, it was 2008, and feeling pretty vulnerable about them and like, oh, I shouldn't put this in a song.

But eventually, five years later, going for it. Same idea about like if it's coming from a place of truth, and I was definitely in my place of truth. I was just alone doing some little voice notes. After really powerful altered state, that's universal, you know? Yeah. That's universal. Yeah. And that message coming through with the music is really very impactful to me as a listener.

So I've had beautiful moments of just catharsis with that song in particular, but just in general. So people are actually just, you know, using your music for healing in general. Meditating with the [00:29:00] music, yoga classes, with the music. Just having it in the background. I know for myself, I put my child to bed to your music.

I hear that a lot. It's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Kids really, it's like they get it on their level. It's like a lot of adults discover it at a time in life when it's important, but kids, they just sort of seem to get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They get it. Yeah. And it calms them. It soothes their nervous system.

That's why I think, like even hearing for Elena is another one that I love, and I'll just start playing it and my son like just falls right asleep. It's like, it's like that to, you know, so like, there's like those, there's sleep cues that people can have. Yeah. Like, you know, that's why you like put a sound machine on for a kid or something like that.

So that song is like a sleep cue for him in a really soothing way. Nice. Pretty cool. Yeah, it's super, super, super cool. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah. Yeah. Now, I know that you're on a mission individually for how each individual listener has an experience of the [00:30:00] tones of the music, but how do you think that benefits sort of on a global scale?

Because I think that you are a healer. You are in the healing arts, whether you would identify that way or not, that's my opinion. What's the vision for how it has an impact in a more collective way? Well. I think music has the power. It's like the hidden key right under our noses. And let me frame that by saying, so we have obviously, like almost every song written in our pockets, we take that for granted.

Music's more present than it's ever been on the planet. So with those conditions. It's this ability for music to be a guide for introspection and to guide us in all these different states that you're speaking to, like sleeping and or whatever it is, regulating our nervous systems. We're doing this right.

People use it to get amped up at the gym. They that we use it for ceremonies at weddings [00:31:00] and we use it all the time and mostly sort of unconscious, but it's kind of in the background of a lot of our lives. I think it has the ability to be used as a tool in a more conscious way, in a sharper way, in a sense.

But what's cool about it is that because of these systems of distribution we have and the way it's in our lives already, it has the ability to work with people as a consciousness tool at scale. You know, already it's just right there in front of us. Yeah. So I just feel it has this kind of potential. If we just were to like.

Bring a little more of our own consciousness to it. I'm like, what is the potentiality of music as a tool? And it's kind of almost free for better or worse for a lot of people to interact with it. Yeah. So you can make something, distribute it, and get it out there globally. And there's a lot of it, of course, but it has the potential to reach people without a lot of barriers.

I love it because it's such a simple way [00:32:00] into alignment. Yeah. Naturally, right? So many people struggle to meditate. Yeah. But if you have music, much like your own, I mean, if anyone were to say, what's the best music to meditate you? I'd say East Forest. But if you have a music that has the ability and the resonance to drop you in, then sometimes it's just about lying down and pressing play and that.

Yeah. And, and then that in itself starts to calm your nervous system and just puts you into that parasympathetic state. I think that. That's why the music consciously or unconsciously, is affecting people globally. Yeah. It changes your vibe, your frequency, instantly. Instantly. And we take that for granted.

So what I'm trying to say is we already kind of do that. So when you add on these layers of like the meditation that you've created with my music or the Ramdas album, right? Yeah. Like why is that powerful? Well, partly 'cause. The content in sense are, is already powerful. Ramdas, for instance, you know, had a [00:33:00] stroke and had difficulty speaking, had these long pauses in his words, so he was still all in there in teaching, but it was, it was a little more difficult to connect with the teachings that he would say because with the pauses.

Yeah. He put it in the music, the pauses go away. It's inside the rhythm of his music. And the music is like a film score. It's giving emotion now. It's amplifying, yeah. What he's doing, and all of a sudden he becomes alive in it. And his fullness of his powers at that time. The music allows it to emotionally resonate and connect, and it's just like a giant amplifier.

And so that's a great example of just like, or meditation, like you're saying. Maybe it's a little sterile, or people are trying to find their connective tissue when their nervous systems are afraid, and we have so much noise in our lives. It's a very, very approachable way to give you a vehicle for your attention that's about feeling an emotion versus thinking.

Yes. And naturally so it's baked into our own nervous systems and brains to react and essentially [00:34:00] understand viscerally music. We all just do. Yeah, yeah. Even from very young ages and the healing effect that putting a song on Totally. A child. Totally. Yeah. Just why is that? Right? So it's like the fact that that exists is kind of showing us that this is a fundamental part about what it means to be human.

Why is it if I have a PhD in musicology and someone else knows nothing about music, we respond to a particular chord in the same way we just Right. Do and I don't, we, these are the things we take for granted. Like that's kind of crazy. Yeah. We do take that for granted. We really do.

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Do you identify that you work with guides, spirit guides when you create. I personally do. Yeah. Yeah. And also some like sort of ascended teachers like Maharaji, Anem, K Baba is someone that I have a strong connection with. MDAs now he is passed. Totally. I have a pretty strong belief system around guides and reincarnation for the best use of that term.

Just the education of the individual soul, like the soul's journey as kind of the name of the whole game here. Yeah. Yeah, I can tell that you work with your guides because so much of the music is just led. It feels very led. It doesn't feel like it's been overly produced. I could be wrong about all this.

No, I know. The guides part is there that I know for sure. It doesn't feel overly produced. Almost feels very extemporaneous moments of just creation, right? Where there's. This like off the [00:42:00] cuff energy, you know, it's improvisation. I mean, that's something that I really believe in as a mode of music making because you're opening yourself up to hopefully something larger than just your head.

Yeah. You get into those flow states and if you know, you go in and out of them, but the idea is that our spontaneous minds is where the real knowing is. It's where there's fewer barriers of thinking. You're creating avenues for divinity to speak through. Yeah. And you have to create those opportunities to give it less friction in a way.

Yeah. What kind of stuff are you doing live right now I'm touring a lot. Just yesterday or two days ago, I was playing in LA and uh, the southeast, and I'm about to do a big tour in the northeast and Midwest and then early next year. I'm gonna Australia and doing some days in Europe, but, so I'm focused a lot on the live experience and it's really interesting because with the ai, it's going to [00:43:00] transform lots of our lives.

But in the music space, I do think it's going to fundamentally decimate recorded music soon and we're, we're reaching peak content on all these different levels. And so the live experience is something that. We are hungry for. I see that. Probably even more hungry for Definitely. 'cause we're gonna want definitely more and more connections.

Just, just like the real, yeah. Especially when it's something is happening in front of you that will be more valuable. Yeah. So for better or worse, I'm putting most of my energy into live work these days, but it's like the hardest thing to do and it takes up all of your time and energy. It's nuts. But, so if I had my druthers, it'd be like I do that less and I could just be at home making stuff.

I love mixing and recording 'cause it's, I dunno, I just love that stuff and audio engineering. But I gotta get out there and come back to New York. I'll put on an event with you. I'll be there. Well I am playing New York early November, so that sounds Oh you are? Okay. I'll come, I'll come. [00:44:00] Yeah, yeah, I'll come.

Yeah, I'll definitely, I would love to come the music hall Williamsburg. So. Nice. I'm really interested in like how we're bringing elements of the sacred and the ceremonial into the mainstream with the most approachable ways. It's always been one of my main interests is how can you do things that are essentially inarguable, meaning like whoever comes, there's nothing I'm really saying or doing where you can use it as an excuse to be like, oh.

That's the other tribe. That's not me, whatever. Right out of this. Right. He talked about the dolphins and or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I love sort of making it this uber human thing where it's like, look, as long as you're willing to breathe and listen, you're in. Yeah. This is for everybody.

Yeah. It's for everybody. And I'm very proud of making experiences that have, I hope, a lot of emotional depth, but are highly inclusive. Yeah. Well. The experiential part is gonna [00:45:00] be what's gonna have the greatest healing effect because yes, the individual experiencing the music, but when you get the group and the community together, that's where there's a major, major big amplifier.

Again, big. I really wanna echo what you're saying with AI and how important gathering is not going to be but is now, and. As a musician, definitely how smart you are to be on top of just making that space, creating that environment, creating that space. Yeah. I think we all try to have a crystal ball on where certain trends are going, and it's natural for us to think about how it affects our jobs and industries.

But I, I've been looking at that live space. I made a movie last couple years, music from Mushrooms that super fun and super amazing experience to make. But then I think as I was getting into that promotion phase, like, yeah, I gotta. Not neglect, like playing live music because yeah, that's the core of the tree here.

Yeah. These are the roots. Yeah. And that's the [00:46:00] future in a lot of ways is developing that space. And as hard as it is, it's also really creatively rewarding because it's so exciting and edgy, which I mean, to do that kind of stuff is terrifying at that time. Yeah. You're really on the edge there, you know?

And I've been performing for God most of my adult life in different ways. But it's still now, I still get nervous and I still go through that whole process. It's really awful at times, like before shows going through all these crazy thoughts about this, is it, you know, I can't do this anymore. And like, I'll help you clear that and it's like, show 3000, you know?

Let me help you clear that that's like a part of you that we can befriend that part of you. I'll help you. Yeah. It's a journey. It's a real journey. It could be free, you could free that part of you just a old story so that you can have more ease. There are a lot of stories that I work with. It's a lot.

It's a big gift that you're giving to have the presence in the room and to create the space though, so I just want you to, [00:47:00] you know, and a gift to me. I mean, when you're a solo artist, it's, it's quite nourishing to be with real people and talk to Right connections and the experience that people are having here.

Stories in the room. Exactly. It's important. Yeah. You need that drive and you need something that you're pressing up against to as a human, but as an artist, especially, to grow. And all of us have a sense of taste internally where you can't always put words to it at all, but you know inside, like there's an expression that you're still trying to express.

Yeah, yeah. And you're continuing to blossom and work towards it. And it's this enough pole foggy thing you just know. And that unrequited is actually quite important and beautiful because that's the drive to create more beauty. Because you'll never actually quite fulfill it. And that's the point. And I think that in itself, that conundrum is actually quite beautiful.

Yeah, it's beautifully said. So what's the [00:48:00] next creative endeavor that you are most excited about right now? Well, I'm, like I said, most of my mind in creative energy has been going into the live space, and I just think a lot about how can I make a show. That is like a good show. There's things that I wanna do creatively in the live space that I need more resources to do, and I'm working towards that.

And that actually is the driving force just on a very like functional level, like I wanna do this kind of show that you just need to sell a certain number of tickets to pay for it all. Okay. It's a long road to get there, but I'm like, I'm not giving up on that yet because I wanna create this thing for people to experience.

What's the thing? Can you say it? Well, it's just the kind of show that I was inspired by at the Beacon Theater on the Upper West Side with Cigar Rose A. Long time ago. I love a Sea Girls. Yeah. So back in the day when you [00:49:00] were in the city with me 20 years ago and I was first getting sober, I would spend hours on a Friday night just meditating to Sea Ross.

Yeah. And there's second album with the parentheses. Yes. Yes. That was that tour. Yes, brother. Yes. Way back. And it's just floored me, you know, that show on so many levels and it was also like, it surprised me 'cause I wasn't as fluent in some of these spaces and prepared for all my, but my point is like.

That kind of theatricality is the best word I can use in a theater. About 3000 seats that you can do with lighting and sound and the dimensionality of the space, and whether it's dancers or horns or surprises, and almost the narrative arcs in it, just the artistry of it. It just increased its beauty level to a way that it makes me really in those moments to be comfortable and happy to be like a human being in a world that's so [00:50:00] telling me often the opposite of you're uncomfortable as a human being.

You're afraid, and it's everything coming towards us is one of fear. Yeah. And so. It gave me an ability to rise way above that and feel deep hope and connection to like things being right. So if the vision is live at the beacon, that is so possible without a shadow of a doubt. I have big visions of music and motivational talks.

I have a theater degree too, and it's really served me as a motivational speaker. And now I'm like, oh, that's why they wanted me to breathe. Yeah. I used to always wonder like, why did I get that degree? And then sometimes now it seems really obvious. I'm like, oh, you see it now? Yeah. You, it gives you comfort or familiarity or a lot of different experiences just being on stage and yeah.

And there was a [00:51:00] calling to present to be on stage. There was a calling for that, and that's where it manifested then. But in terms of creating. Making the vision of the Beacon live with like an experiential music experience kind of vibe. Yeah. For instance, just another example, I hate Las Vegas, but I think it'd be an amazing accomplishment to have a residency or create a show in Vegas because it would hit most of Middle America.

Yeah. And the challenge is how can I create something so mesmerizing? Yeah. That people come and they're like. I didn't think this was for me, and I don't know know if I understood it, but boy do I feel something special. Yeah. You know, like I really need to tell my friends to go to this thing. Like you're almost where spirituality becomes so commonplace and important that it's, for instance, on the cover of Time Magazine, not that that's, yeah, totally.

We're not far from that. It's like, it's not like a [00:52:00] us or them. It's like this is who we are actually. Not only is it needed, but it's who you are and it's just part of life. And it's not about religion, it's just about depth of life. We're not far away from that. That's here. The commonplace spirituality, I think we're really close to.

I really do. I think it's really in the zeitgeist and I think that people are ready for it. There's a great line by Muji spiritual teacher. I was just played a little recording from him the other night in the show, and he has these things like when you're desperate, you discover. And we're getting pretty desperate.

Yes. I don't think we've hit rock bottom yet, but there is a sense of opportunity and discovery when the bottom falls out. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. That's exactly right. I often quote Rumi that the wound is the place where the light enters you. Yeah. So we're doing this on a mass scale in a way, and it's crazy, but [00:53:00] it also takes a lot of bravery so we can honor the bravery people are bringing to the table and will bring to the table, you know, the courage just to step forward as opposed to shirk away.

And I, that takes a lot today. You know, an age where from a digital point of view where a lot of our lives and attention is, it's an onslaught. Yeah, but lurking behind this is this, this natural, like, you know, it's like a plant coming through the cracks in the concrete. It's inevitable, it's happening whether you believe it or not, but our participation in it, to me that's like the story lurking beneath all these other stories.

And more and more people, I think are starting to pick up on that. Beautiful. So beautiful. So. Everyone has this experience of hearing this meditation, which I hope is the first of many collaborations. I'm gonna keep planting the seed if I haven't done it 45 times already on the call. Like, and then what else can we do together?

And what else could, my big dream is to be [00:54:00] maybe live in a room with you, with you playing and then channeling with the music. That would be a dream, and I'm gonna keep saying it until it becomes, but nevertheless, even just this creation of making this meditation with you and just having the energy behind the words is such a big deal to me.

My prayer is that it really helps people have an entry point to meditation for those who do not have a meditation or a deeper meditation for those who do have a practice and to experience the journey, but also the healing of the vibration and the alliance. Yeah. I think it's a great meditation and I love the theme of it, but I think it's an important little invitation or seed you're putting out there.

Yeah. I mean, it's the universe, you know, and you're, you're kind of dance with it. Yeah, connecting to the universe, co-creating your life with the universe. And when I thought about doing a collaboration with you, the first thought I had was how much your meditations take me on these inner journeys of visualization.

And there's so much [00:55:00] image making that happens when I'm listening to your music. And so I wanted this guided practice to be a practice of helping people really get into that state of image making and allowing that creative capacity of the brain to sort of open up. And to start to let their mind wander.

That would be my hope for this practice. My hope is that some of the people will practice it daily for maybe 30 days and just sort of see what happens out of that journey. I love the word wander. That's a great way to, yeah. Yeah. That's beautiful. Yeah. We're so directional because like I am, yeah. Yeah. And I, when I go down to my little spot in southern Utah, I often say to myself like, I'm not always going on a hike.

I'm going on a wander. Yeah, or I say I'm going on a saunter, meaning like it doesn't need to have a destination. I don't have to work so hard. I'm just gonna go out and just go wander gore and wander. I don't think anyone really wanders enough these days. We're probably, our heads are down too much to wander, so you gotta free up a little time and space [00:56:00] and there's nothing better than being in a place like where there's no trails or something and you're truly just walking around.

Put on your headphone. Listen to our meditation and wander. That's the homework. Put on your, yeah, don't have a path. Just be, it doesn't really, there's no wrong way. I can go left right forward as long as I'm just gonna walk around. Yeah, let's go. That's great. Yeah. No, no keys, no phone, no wallet. That's also like powerful medicine.

I don't do it enough, but it's an incredible how it changes the feeling. No keys, no or no. Wallet is a big change. It's a really beautiful shift. Yeah, I know. That's actually crazy. We never do it, but it's like No. A pretty radical hack. Radical hack. That's right. Yeah. Well, where can everybody, I mean every, I think everybody go to Spotify.

You you're, you obviously have this meditation now. Well, if you wanna go deep, I have a Patreon where I share a lot of my live recordings and a lot more meditations, and I do a monthly council on Zoom. Nice. And then of course the big thing is the live [00:57:00] space. So a lot of those tickets are on sale for Australia in October, but the tour in November in the US and then being in Europe in early 26 and the rest of the US then, so get on the mailing list and a music for Mushrooms is the movie we're really proud of.

It's a movie about spirituality, about mental health. Yeah. And it's for anybody, it's not just about mushrooms, but yeah, it's about mental health. And it's fun. Yeah, it's a good movie. So, uh, I recommend checking that out on the website. What's the website? U rl Just everybody has it. It's either music for mushrooms.com or east forest.org.

You'll see it there on both. Beautiful. Great. Yeah. I highly recommend that everyone go experience East Forest Live and have a spiritual experience in the room. That's the goal. We hope so. That's the goal. I'm gonna, we're gonna come in November. I'm gonna try to come in November. Please do. Please do. Yeah.

It'll be fun. Yeah. I feel like this was such a nice way to just establish a deeper friendship with you and [00:58:00] to now know you in a new way and just support you in any way that I can. 'cause you're a really special, creative part of my meditative journey. Oh, thanks. Yeah, it's been too long. So wait, too long.

Glad we glad to make this happen. Yeah. Here we're here We're, so everyone enjoy our meditation. Connect to the universe. Open up your. Creative capacity to hold visions of wonder and wander without your phone and your keys and enjoy. And I do recommend that everyone listen and practice this meditation for at least a month, 30 days maybe, and witness the shifts.

Just be the witness of the shift. It's a really big opportunity for everyone listening.
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